Legislature(2001 - 2002)

01/29/2001 01:35 PM Senate HES

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            SB  19-CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT/SOC SEC. #                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BARBARA  MIKLOS, Director  of  the  Child  Support Enforcement                                                             
Division (CSED), introduced  Ms. Diane Wendlandt, Assistant Attorney                                                            
General for CSED.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS  explained that SB 19 is  a sunset bill.  In 1996,  1997,                                                            
and 1998,  the legislature  passed bills  pertaining to the  federal                                                            
welfare  reform legislation.   Congress  included  child support  as                                                            
part of the welfare  reform legislation in an attempt  to reduce the                                                            
number of welfare  recipients by ensuring that families  had as many                                                            
resources as  possible.  Child support  plays a big part  in helping                                                            
people who  have been on public assistance.   In FY 00, almost  half                                                            
of the  money collected by  CSED was collected  on behalf of  people                                                            
who, at one  point in time, were on  public assistance.   The amount                                                            
collected for  people who are actually on public assistance  is less                                                            
because the number of recipients has been reduced.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS  said that the  legislature passed  legislation  in 1996-                                                            
1998 because,  for the most part, Congress had put  severe sanctions                                                            
on the  states.  States  would lose all  federal funding for  public                                                            
assistance and  child support funding if they did  not comply.  CSED                                                            
believes  that although  those sanctions  continue, the legislation                                                             
helped CSED.  In FY 99,  CSED collected about $81 million; in FY 00,                                                            
CSED collected $85 million,  and in FY 01, it expects to collect $90                                                            
million. As  child support collections  increase, the percentage  of                                                            
the money given to families will increase.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN noted  that a graph of that information  is in committee                                                            
packets.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS  said CSED believes the  number of complaints  about CSED                                                            
has  decreased.    The  1996-1998  legislation  provided  CSED  with                                                            
additional  collection tools,  which CSED has  been careful  to use.                                                            
The 1996  legislation did  not contain a sunset  clause, so  none of                                                            
its provisions are addressed in SB 19.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS  said SB  19 simply repeals  the sunset  language  in the                                                            
1997  and  1998  legislation.    CSED  worked  very  carefully  with                                                            
legislators during both  of those years to make sure the legislation                                                            
contained only provisions  required by the federal legislation.  She                                                            
explained  CSSB 19(RES) has  three sections.   The first contains  a                                                            
findings,  purpose  and  intent  section,  the  second  repeals  the                                                            
sunset,  nonseverability and  related provisions,  and the  third is                                                            
the effective  date.  The  nonseverability  is a provision  from the                                                            
1998 legislation:  it says that if  any part of the legislation  was                                                            
found  to be  unconstitutional,  the  entire  legislation  would  be                                                            
unconstitutional.   CSED requested  that be  removed.  One  case was                                                            
brought  before the  Supreme Court  regarding  the driver's  license                                                            
program but was found to  be constitutional.  CSED is concerned that                                                            
if   any  small   part   of  that   provision   was   found  to   be                                                            
unconstitutional, the entire legislation would be thrown out.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 472                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS reviewed a document  entitled, "Child Support Enforcement                                                            
'Sunset'  Summary."   The laws  passed  in 1997  and 1998  contained                                                            
provisions  that  will sunset  this  year.   If the  sunset  occurs,                                                            
Alaska  will be out  of compliance  with welfare  reform laws.   The                                                            
following provisions will sunset if SB 19 is not enacted:                                                                       
   · One provision applies to the availability of records and                                                                   
     access to information  and requires various agencies to provide                                                            
     information  to CSED,  which CSED  uses in  several ways.  Most                                                            
     agencies were voluntarily  providing that information before it                                                            
     was required by Congress.                                                                                                  
   · Another  section deals  with best efforts  language.   Alaska's                                                            
     1997 legislation  had a provision allowing a  person to contest                                                            
     losing  a driver's  license if  that person  was making  a best                                                            
     effort  to pay child  support.  That  language was then  put in                                                            
      the 1998 legislation.  It was not required by Congress.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked if that provision was meant to sunset.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS said it was.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN noted that Senator Ward had arrived.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS continued.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
   · The central  registry provision is a congressional  requirement                                                            
     that requires  CSED to keep a list of all child  support orders                                                            
     available,  whether or not the parties are involved  with CSED.                                                            
     This helps  CSED determine when  a person applies for  services                                                            
     whether a child support order already exists.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked if that is part of the interstate compact.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS said it was part of welfare reform.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. WENDLANDT explained it is simply a federal requirement.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS continued explaining the provisions of SB 19, which                                                                  
repeals sunset dates for the following activities:                                                                              
   · One  section deals  with  credit bureau  reporting.   CSED  was                                                            
     doing   credit    reporting   prior   to   the   congressional                                                             
     requirements.                                                                                                              
   · A definition provision  was intended to make definitions common                                                            
     between  states  and is  not substantive.    Another  provision                                                            
     deals with due process.                                                                                                    
   · The federal law improved  due process, particularly when people                                                            
     do voluntary paternity.   In addition, other opportunities have                                                            
     been provided for  people to review various things CSED does in                                                            
     case  work.  For  example, when  CSED sends  out a withholding                                                             
     order to  an employer, CSED notices the person  whose wages are                                                            
      being withheld to give that person a chance to respond.                                                                   
   · The financial institution  data match program is one in which a                                                            
     list of  people who have arrears  is matched against  assets in                                                            
     financial accounts.   CSED had a similar program before welfare                                                            
     reform but it was not automated.                                                                                           
   · A section  requires seven  days for employers  to respond  to a                                                            
     request  for withholding.   It  also requires  CSED to get  its                                                            
     payments out within two days.                                                                                              
   · Regarding liens, CSED is required to give full faith and                                                                   
     credit to liens from other states.  Many states go through                                                                 
     CSED but the person must be notified and given the same due                                                                
     process requirements.                                                                                                      
   · Regarding modifications, CSED must notify people every three                                                               
     years that their support orders could be modified because of                                                               
     income changes.                                                                                                            
   · The new hire reporting requirement mandates that employers                                                                 
     inform  CSED of new or rehires.   CSED works with employers  to                                                            
     make sure  they comply as opposed to being punitive.   CSED did                                                            
     a 6-month  study and found that  12 percent of the collections                                                             
     were from new hire reporting.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked if the  employer reporting requirement is federal.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS said it is.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   LEMAN  asked   if   new  hire   reporting   can  be   done                                                            
electronically  so that an  employer can go  to a website and  enter                                                            
the necessary information.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MIKLOS  answered that  employers  can  file  electronically  by                                                            
sending tapes but they  are not able to do it through a website yet.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  asked how  an employer with  just one employee  would                                                            
file.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS  said small employers can  mail or fax a copy  of the W-4                                                            
form or another kind of form.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS said that people  on public assistance have always had to                                                            
cooperate with CSED but  CSED is now the entity to determine whether                                                            
a person is cooperating.   CSED notifies DHSS about non-cooperation.                                                            
The  next  section   of  the  bill  pertains  to  nondisclosure   of                                                            
information.   CSED had an existing statute that required  it to let                                                            
the  non-custodial  parent know  where  the custodial  parent  lives                                                            
unless  the non-custodial  parent was  paid up  with child  support.                                                            
Congress felt,  in general, that non-custodial  parents should  have                                                            
more access to their children.   Congress said that unless providing                                                            
the custodial  parent's address could  endanger the child,  the non-                                                            
custodial  parent would  get that  address whether  or not the  non-                                                            
custodial  parent had any  child support  arrears.  The Legislature                                                             
amended Alaska's statute to reflect that change.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Regarding changes to paternity  provisions, MS. MIKLOS said that the                                                            
rights and responsibilities  of fathers who voluntarily  acknowledge                                                            
paternity are  explained right away.   Either party may now  request                                                            
genetic testing  and may  request two genetic  tests.  When  genetic                                                            
tests are done,  the best interest of the child must  be considered.                                                            
The cost recovery of genetic testing is specified.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1120                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked  in what circumstance it might not  be in the best                                                            
interest of the child to do genetic testing.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS  explained it would not  be in the child's best  interest                                                            
if establishing  paternity could put the child in  danger.  If there                                                            
was an allegation  of child abuse or child sexual  abuse, CSED would                                                            
not go forward with the  case and do genetic testing.  She said that                                                            
has never happened to her knowledge and would be very rare.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS  said the bill gives CSED  the ability to do a  seek work                                                            
order, although CSED has  chosen to go through the court.  Regarding                                                            
social security  numbers, the state  got the federal requirement  to                                                            
list  those   on  hunting  and  fishing   licenses  waived.     That                                                            
requirement  was waived because  CSED could  prove that better  data                                                            
could be  obtained from  other sources,  particularly the  permanent                                                            
fund.     However,   social  security   numbers   are  required   on                                                            
applications for drivers', occupational, and marriage licenses.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Regarding  subpoenas, the  legislation gives  CSED the authority  to                                                            
subpoena various  people for information.  CSED has  been doing that                                                            
through the Commissioner's authority so the practice is not new.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The last change  relates to UIFSA (the Uniform law)  and makes minor                                                            
changes so that Alaska's law is consistent with other states.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1252                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked  if every complicated issue in the  bill is ground                                                            
that the  legislature already  covered in 1997  and 1998 or  whether                                                            
any points are new, other than the sunset issue.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MIKLOS  said it  is  all ground  the  legislature  has  covered                                                            
before.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN asked why Section 1 is in the bill.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. WENDLANDT  stated that Section  1 was included to explain,  as a                                                            
historical matter, what  lead up to this legislation.  It references                                                            
the federal requirements  and the success of the provisions. Section                                                            
1 is not essential.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN thought  the intent  could  have been  included  in a                                                            
sponsor statement  or letter, rather  than put in statute.   He said                                                            
he does not have a problem with the findings or intent.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  said she agrees.  She  asked Ms. Miklos to discuss  the                                                            
driver's license  issue, particularly the requirement  that a social                                                            
security  number  be provided  on  the application  for  a  driver's                                                            
license.  She asked whether that issue is addressed in SB 19.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MIKLOS said  regarding  the  sunset,  the driver's  license  is                                                            
listed with the other licenses  on page 4.  She said the requirement                                                            
is that the social security  number be on the application but not on                                                            
the license itself.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked whether  it is up to CSED or the issuing agency to                                                            
notify applicants that  they can opt to not have the social security                                                            
number put on the license itself.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS said it is not up to CSED.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GREEN asked  if the Senate  Resources  Committee removed  the                                                            
requirement  to put social security  numbers on hunting and  fishing                                                            
licenses.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS said that is correct.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1548                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  noted the  sunset provisions  were  put in the  earlier                                                            
legislation to get greater  support for it.  She asked Ms. Miklos to                                                            
address the nonseverability clause.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS explained that  the nonseverability clause was put in the                                                            
1998  legislation.   It said  if any  piece of  the legislation  was                                                            
found to be unconstitutional,  then everything would  be thrown out.                                                            
The  nonseverability   clause  has  been  used  in   the  past  when                                                            
legislation is pretty similar  but, in this case, the legislation is                                                            
so   diverse  it   differed   from   other  circumstances   when   a                                                            
nonseverability clause was used.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked  whether any questions have been  raised about any                                                            
portions of the previous legislation being unconstitutional.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS  said the driver's license  provision was challenged  and                                                            
found to be constitutional.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN asked if any  other states have nonseverability language                                                            
in their child support legislation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS said she is not aware of any.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  thought  the legislation  may have  "stood the test  of                                                            
time."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WARD  asked if the  recent audit had  any bearing on  any of                                                            
the provisions in SB 19.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS said it did not.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  pointed out the Legislature  does not want some  of the                                                            
provisions in  the legislation sunsetted, i.e., the  ability of CSED                                                            
to do certain  things versus the ability  of the court and  the best                                                            
efforts language.  She  asked whether the federal agency has had any                                                            
reaction to Alaska's 1997 and 1998 child support legislation.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MIKLOS explained that  the whole thing relates back to the child                                                            
support  state plan.   CSED had  to respond to  the federal  agency,                                                            
which accepted Alaska's state plan.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GREEN  asked Ms. Miklos  to provide her  with a review  in the                                                            
near future  of the areas  in the bill that  can withstand  a sunset                                                            
and those that  cannot.  She noted  she would schedule CSSB  19(RES)                                                            
for another hearing on February 5.                                                                                              

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